a ver quien adivina.......

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Asi ya si XD es una Liophis , posiblemente una Liophis poecilogyrus.
Eso si dijiste que tenia 13 subespecies y a mi me salen bastantes ma 48.
Liophis almadensis WAGLER 1824
Liophis amarali WETTSTEIN 1930
Liophis andinus DIXON 1983
Liophis anomalus GÜNTHER 1858
Liophis atraventer DIXON & THOMAS 1985
Liophis breviceps COPE 1861
Liophis carajasensis DA CUNHA, NASCIMENTO & AVILA-PIRES 1985
Liophis ceii DIXON 1991
Liophis cobella LINNAEUS 1758
Liophis cursor LACÉPÈDE 1789
Liophis dilepis COPE 1862
Liophis dorsocorallinus ESQUEDA, NATERA, LA MARCA & ILIJA-FISTAR 2007
Liophis elegantissimus KOSLOWSKY 1896
Liophis epinephelus COPE 1862
Liophis festae PERACCA 1897
Liophis flavifrenatus COPE 1862
Liophis frenatus WERNER 1909
Liophis guentheri PERACCA 1897
Liophis ingeri ROZE 1958
Liophis jaegeri GÜNTHER 1858
Liophis janaleeae DIXON 2000
Liophis juliae COPE 1879
Liophis leucogaster JAN 1863
Liophis lineatus LINNAEUS 1758
Liophis longiventris AMARAL 1925
Liophis maryellenae DIXON 1985
Liophis melanotus SHAW 1802
Liophis meridionalis SCHENKEL 1902
Liophis miliaris LINNAEUS 1758
Liophis ornatus GARMAN 1887
Liophis paucidens HOGE 1953
Liophis perfuscus COPE 1862
Liophis poecilogyrus WIED-NEUWIED 1825
Liophis problematicus MYERS 1986
Liophis reginae LINNAEUS 1758
Liophis sagittifer JAN 1863
Liophis steinbachi BOULENGER 1905
Liophis subocularis BOULENGER 1902
Liophis taeniogaster JAN 1866
Liophis taeniurus TSCHUDI 1845
Liophis torrenicola DONNELLY & MYERS 1991
Liophis trebbaui ROZE 1958
Liophis triscalis LINNAEUS 1758
Liophis typhlus LINNAEUS 1758
Liophis vanzolinii DIXON 1985
Liophis viridis GÜNTHER 1862
Liophis vitti DIXON 2000
Liophis williamsi ROZE 1958
 

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Podiais poner otra norma en este minijuego, si os parece bien a todos claro... que cada uno tenga dos intentos o algo asi, y si no se adivina, el que haya puesto la foto tiene el derecho de poner otra, y comentarnos que ofidio era y que nos hable un poco de el, asi creo que sera mas productivo, que os parece? espero que no os parezca una mier... >:D ;) un saludo a todos!
 

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me parece bien , que se tengan 2 intentos por persona y un maximo de 40 intentos o 4 dias de duracion
( si no se hace un poco pesado)

¿ que opinais el resto?
 

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Hola a los particpantes/as y lectorxs.

Hola de nuevo Pescaito, has acertado, se trata de especímenes de Liophis poecilogyrus. ¡Felicidades!, de verdad. Con respecto a lo de las subespecies, creo que no me entendiste bien: escribí que la especie en cuestión presentaba 13 subespecies, no todo el género Liophis. Las 13 especies que presenta son las siguientes:Liophis poecilogyrus amazonicus (AMARAL 1944);Liophis poecilogyruscaesius; Liophispoecilogyrus franciscanus (AMARAL, 1944); Liophis poecilogyrus montanus (AMARAL 1944); Liophis poecilogyrus pictostriatus (AMARAL 1944); Liophis poecilogyrus pinetincola (AMARAL 1944); Liophis poecilogyrus platensis Amaral, 1944; Liophis poecilogyrus poecilogyrus (WIED-NEUWIED 1825); Liophis poecilogyrus reticulatus (PARKER 1931); Liophis poecilogyrus schotti (SCHLEGEL 1837); Liophis poecilogyrus subfasciatus (COPE 1862); Liophis poecilogyrus sublineatus (COPE 1860); Liophis poecilogyrus xerophilus (AMARAL 1944).

Aporto, para finalizar, algunos datos más sobre esta especie, Liophis poecilogyrus:

Se encuentra generalmente cerca de arroyos, ríos o lagunas.
Es una culebra ovípara.
Al ser atrapado ensancha el cuello como método intimidatorio.
Se dispersa desde la cuenca amazónica hasta la Argentina.

Y el primer caso clínico -al parecer- por un envenenamiento causado por esta especie, fechado en 1999:

LIOPHIS POECILOGYRUS (NCN). ENVENOMATION.
This species has been reported recently from Venezuela (Dixon and Markezich 1992. Texas J. Sci. 44:131–166; Fuentes and Barrio 1999. Herpetol. Rev. 30:54; Rivas et al. 2002. Herpetol. Rev. 33:6. All species of the genus Liophis are known as quiet and inoffensive snakes, but presenting rear fangs. Handling by me and collaborators never resulted in a bite before the incident reported herein. We believe that this is the first reported case of envenomation by this species in Venezuela.

On 11 July 1999, in the summer camp Wai Tuna (km 303 along the road El Dorado-Santa Elena de Uairén, Gran Sabana, Bolívar State) some tourists under my care cornered a 55 cm TL snake, and called me quickly. I captured the snake by hand, being familiar with this species. The instinctive reaction of the snake being handled was to bite at the conjunction of the two first phalanges of the fourth finger of my left hand. It had its jaws clamped around my finger for approximately 3 min. I did not free myself or shake it off because I preferred to wait in order to let the snake release its grip on its own. The finger showed two small wounds, but both corresponded to the same right fang. After washing the wound with soap, I applied a “Aspivenin” suction device, albeit probably too late to be effective, although some blood was removed. Immediately, the two phalanges became swollen, and exhibited a severe dark purple color in the bitten area. Several minutes later, the third phalange was swollen. The general sensation was not pain, but numbness. Only if the finger was touched did I feel some pain. Twenty minutes later the swelling expanded to the third finger. I experienced an increasing pulsation as well as a rather bothersome tingling sensation. 1.5 h later the swelling had extended to the dorsum and palm of the hand. Some swelling also took place on the third phalanges of the rest of the fingers, except for the thumb. There, it stabilized and stopped.

I made the decision to consult a person with experience in snake bites in the Santa Elena de Uairén-El Paují- Ikabarú area (Luis Scott). He had never seen a similar case. He, along with the doctors of Hospital Rosario Vera Zurita at Santa Elena de Uairén decided to prescribe an intravenous steroid (hydrocortisone in lieu of an antihistamine), an analgesic (Ibuprofen), and an antibiotic to prevent infectious complications.

The medical report four hours post bite, with the patient in good general condition, was as follows: bite by a snake (Liophis poecylogyrus, Colubridae) at the junction of the first and second phalanges of the fourth finger on the left hand (signs of coloration, temperature, edema and local congestion) with pain when touched and/or moved.

15 h post bite, the situation was unchanged, with a slight extension of the edema.
19 h post bite (after a short sleep of 4 h) the dorsum and palm inflammation was considerably reduced. A slight discomfort was noted in the left axilla.
22 h post bite, the general situation continued to improve (the inflammation goes down) but there was still pain to touch and movement.
48 h post bite, the swollen fourth finger and hand in general remitted considerably, the edema having extended to the dorsal and ventral parts of the first phalange notwithstanding.
60 h post bite, the finger recovered some mobility and the inflammation went down further.
72 h post bite, the finger recovered its mobility to ca. 60% and the inflammation was reduced to a minimum. The edema, however, was still in the first phalanx, especially in the dorsal region around the nail.
96 h post bite, the finger recovered its mobility further with the edema still present. Ibuprofen administration is suspended.
120 h post bite, the finger regained almost complete mobility with the edema still present. The antibiotic administration is reduced to one dose per day.

After one week, the finger was fully mobile, although some pain was felt when touched for yet another week when the edema disappeared completely.

Submitted by CÉSAR LUIS BARRIO AMORÓS, Fundación ANDÍGENA, Apartado 210, 5101-A Mérida, Venezuela; e-mail: cesarlba@yahoo.com.
 

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StraightSNK, bueno hombre, tampoco es tan largo... Así mejoras tu inglés leyendo sobre algo que te gusta.

Pescaito, te toca poner una fotografía.
 

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Asturiano te entendi mal perdon , error mio.

Pongo una facilita que me gusta mucho , para que rule .

Lo de las reglas por mi lo que querais , a ver que dicen los creadores del post.
 

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No es crotalido? >:D ese bicho tiene cara de Panamint Speckled Rattlesnake, Crotalus mitchelli stephensi y cuerpo con patrones de Agkistrodon , que será, que será :D
 

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Premio para farlopitecus . La verdad que la cabeza sale rara en esa foto porque me imaginava que acertariais rapido , las Bothrops tienen la cabeza muy reconocible.
 

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Hombre, las Bothrops (casi todas) vistas de frente se confunden con mucho crotalus ;)

Bueno, ya que me toca... ahí va otra :p
 

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Venga, va una para que sepáis por donde buscar. Vive sólo en Madagascar y no es un elápido.


Farlopitecus
(muy bueno lo del desfile de maniquís :p)
 
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